Highlights from Texas Zoom meeting with Ronnie Stutts and David Heather

The information below is NOT what is in the new contract.  These are things being considered for rural carriers in the new contract.  Again…  None of the items below have been agreed on.  These are just things being considered!

Ronnie Stutts

Hopes the contract could be tentative in the next two weeks.

70% of routes have no or little Amazon. Letters/Flats down. A traditional mailcount would hurt. He kept saying ” we have the numbers”.

Mentioned items he felt were agreed upon and items being considered.

Wanted wording for implementation of formula to change. He felt the union can’t stop formula with current requirements.

Would like to change advertising to pulling hiring lists. If formula is implemented, must create PTF position. Threw out number of 10% PTFs. Currently would create 4000 PTF positions.

New RCAs can only work assigned route first 2 pay periods.

Holiday worked, regular carrier: option to get a day of annual to use later instead of pay.

Mentioned USPS didn’t try to get rid of Xmas overtime.

Trying to get some wording for RCAs getting sent to other offices. Can’t stop it. But want some clear guidance.

Mentioned there might be a MOU regarding casing methods. His example was allowing carriers to jackpot flats.

Attempting to get RCA’s  one hour of annual for every 20 hours worked.

There was some scenario breakdowns that they want to include in the contract that deals with use of annual that may be concerning with saying something like a 60 or 30 day max notice to submit leave slips unless it was dealing with a trip that requires planning like a cruise or wedding.


David Heather

Seemed really positive on RRECs . Felt the standards are accurate.
Volume will be over 52 weeks. Letters/flats/parcels,etc…

He said RRECs will have no input from local management. This was a positive. The only local input is distances in office. Done with the carrier and management.

The panel added around 10% to every standard. 7% for fatigue and delay. And 3.3% break time. The 3.3 % would equal 15 minutes/day on a 40K.

Mileage and boxes are about 60% of a route’s evaluation.

Stated how drive time would affect different routes.

Said for all routes the average drive speed is 18-19 mph.

The USPS has already collected a year of data. The Union and consultant have reviewed the data. They are convinced it’s accurate and unbelievably complete.

You will have the ability to go on the Union website and look at your daily numbers.

Amazon Sunday parcels are not included in evaluations.

Expects 40-50 % of routes to either lose/gain an hour when RRECs is implemented.

Stayed positive on standards. Didn’t mention the DPS standard loss.

Gave an example on new parcels standards impact: May 2020-May 2021 the average
for all routes (86,000) was going to the door 35 times a day.
Current standard would be 17.5 minutes/day. New standard could be 2.5- over 4 min for each parcel to the door ( depending on distances.)

He came up with 92 minutes/day. So a gain of almost 75 minutes/day from the new parcel standards.

They have goals: Start scanner function in January.
Start data collection in March.
Evaluations by middle of year.

First year, evaluations every 3 months. The volume data would still be the previous 12 months. Then either every 6 or 12 month period.

85% of most points for routes are already populated.

Audio of meeting by Rural Deviation


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A lot of people will be quitting. That Table 2 pay scale needs to be throw out the window.

Expects 40-50 % of routes to either lose/gain an hour when RRECs is implemented. Wow what an insite, either lose or gain. duh.

Need to re-evaluate scan time with these new scanners… takes 3-4 tries before it actually scans, then the time when it goes off to a different screen and you got to get back to the correct screen.

Table 2 needs to go or I will walk also

Had a global pandemic issue so to assist RCAs we choose to fight to get them a way to take vacations instead of a way to cover them financially when they fall ill. Sorry, but that confuses me.

Really need to double that 35 trips to the door for packages!

Change our pay every few months? I’ll be leaving the union. How are carriers supposed to plan their finances?

All my vacations require planning – I am going to Yellowstone and other National Parks and to get places to stay you must book 6 months to a year out – 2 months is not feasible in a lot of circumstances – how about 6 months?

Expects 40-50 % of routes to either lose/gain an hour when RRECs is implemented.

Uhhhhhh….what about the other 50-60%?? Stay the same? or bigger change??

I really have an issue with start starting up RRECS. 1st of all millions have been spent to arrive at this data driven concept. So, now we just what to start, forget mapping which was part of the plan. If you reviewed the information involve with mapping their is a lot to do so we can get compensated properly. 2nd there is no reason not to do mapping since, at least in my office, we had route inspections last year. 3rd some offices haven’t inspected routes or maybe they have, but their 4003’s are not correct. 4th my understanding was… Read more »

We need 2 year conversion like CCA or PSE has.

So will their be extreme cases where a route gets adjusted 10 hours per 3 month period?

OMG!! Hold onto your butts! What about routes that have been buried by Amazon the last 5 years? How do you answer the question yearly salary on a mortgage application when that figure changes every 3 months? Looks to me like the Rural Craft is about to slip farther behind City Carriers and Clerks. I would love to see Ronnie Stutts and David Heather try to follow ridiculous mandates handed out daily and carry a route in the Carolina District. What’s this garbage about working your Holiday for no pay and a day of annual? That’s moronic! Time and a… Read more »

If someone works a holiday they should be getting double time. Not just straight as if it were just another day. The rural craft has a lot of days like that where we are paid straight time where we should be paid time and a half. An example would be getting 8127 time at straight time when you’ve already worked over 40 hours that week. any 8127 time on top of your evaluation should be paid time and a half rate. Any holiday work should be paid double time. And it should never be mandatory.

Sorry but DPS is not down here. My DPS during Christmas and now after has just lost it. 3-5 trays a day now. I use to get 3 max on a Monday. Plz