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RRECS Evaluation Poll Results

  1. i went from a 43k to 40k, my route should have gone up at least two hours or more. i have 3 buggy of AMAZON PARCELS every day. F… the post office and the union. ILL NEVER JOIN THE THAT SOFT ASS KISSING UNION. The heads of the union need to FIRED VOTED OUT ECTT.. ASAP FOR AGREEING TO THIS SHIT

  2. I agree the CBU question needs to be changed, needs to be less .
    Amazon office, 16 routes , 11 busted , 4 gained and 1 dropped an hour.
    All still K routes.

  3. This whole thing is a joke…I want to know why any of the out going mail we picked up was not added in to our letter count at the end of the day…why pick it up if your not counting it…we touch it it needs to be counted…I want my final number count not everything switched to minutes…where is all that information at… inaccuracies all over the place…I use to love this job…not anymore…it just causes more stress, work(because we have no RCAs) and anxiety…stick all this where the sun don’t shine and I am pulling out of the union because you are not sticking up for the hardworking rural carriers…

  4. Went from 47k to 43k; working 2-3 hours per day MORE than 3 months ago; 15 years total, 7.5 as regular; likely going to quit

  5. 1 route went from 43 to 45K. The other 8 were 40K to 46K and are now all 48ks. Standard hours on those 8 48Ks range from 61 – 77 hours. Looks like 2-3 more routes if they are all cut to 43Ks eventually. Most routes in this area went up, wayyyyyyyy up.

  6. Amazon dumps 12-20 pallets a day for those 9 routes. They are all CBU. Amazon does not deliver around here. This is also an area that is growing rapidly.

  7. Why is Amazon dictating whether we gain or lose money? Amazon could stop dropping at every office, then what? We all lose!! The time standards are horrible. The blame should be pointed to whomever agreed to them or didn’t have a backbone. Bottom line!!

  8. All CBU routes went down by 4 to 20 hours per week generally. All stop and hop gained multiple hours. Stop and hop are the closest routes in our office by far. And they generally go home after about 5 or 6 hours per day. Now under rrecs they’re considered overburdened…

  9. 46k to overburdened 61+. was going to post on reddit about parcel volumes, load times and EOS times but that was not allowed

  10. EAS employees should not get merit bonuses either. We make them look good by doing our jobs. Why do we have to suffer? Yet they get to keep their salaries and bonuses. I went from a 44K to a 41H – not right!!!

  11. I believe that the routes that went up were actually based on the overall daily time for the routes. The more time the carrier took in a day the higher the eval, the faster the carrier was the eval went down….that is just my 2 cents

  12. I don’t think it matters how long we took on the route. because two of the routes that still kept their time or went up by an hour, in my office one 47k and a 48k, they pretty much finished the same time I finish and I was a 41k but I went down to 43h

  13. My route went up 1 hour, I have been doing my scans since the beginning of March 2022. I have a CMRA (Postal Center) that has 75-100 pick ups 6 days a week. My end of day is usually over 30 minutes because I do dispatch all of my parcels. My load time says 19 minutes and I have never loaded my truck un under 35 minutes. We have service talks almost every day and I have O time for that! I am requesting RIMS paper work for the time I was out on workers comp (3 months) because management didn’t tell the RCAs when they split my route they needed to change the scanner over to my route number so all my pickups/load truck/end of day would be credited to MY route not the routes they did that day! Surprise, those routes went up!

  14. We are fools for paying union dues! We all lost while higher ups in the union get 48k pay to do nothing for us. Get out of the union!

  15. It’s very difficult, if not impossible to get out of the union. It has to be done just right or it’s a no go, and u can only try once a year.

  16. Let’s all stage a walk out next week. Pick a day and just not show up to work. I’m thinking the Saturday coming up when it’s suppose to take effect. Let’s show them who really makes this company work .

  17. Mine went from 39 to 31. 20% less pay for the same work… some hard decisions are going to have to be made.

  18. I went from a 46k to a 45k. Usually the first back in my office. 3-4 hr delivery. I don’t think actual delivery time matters. Even if you have have no mail for a box, stop at that box. Union douche told me that during mapping.

  19. Routes are all over the place in my office. But majority lost. I went from a 44k to a 36h. I have been doing all my entry’s correctly since the beginning.

  20. So when I first took over the route 3 years ago it was a 43j. About a month ago it was dropped down to a 41k because they got rid of fss supposedly. Today I was told the route is now a 38h. So I lost 3 more hour and gained another day to work. Please tell me this is not real life.

  21. Playing favoritism in our office isn’t cool on this evaluation. All routes between 40H through 42J. Only 3-4 routes were 45K and one 48K (this route was 61+ overburdened) Post Master did the count and had no other person count. We never seen the numbers for 2 weeks. Today is the first time seeing any type of numbers. 45K to 42J (30 Dismounts but on the sheet 2 Dismounts) 0 Volume Factor. Many routes aren’t mapped and no numbers were put into the system. What do you think everyone can do about this?

  22. Everyone in ELkhorn office in Sacramento, CA got 0 minutes on CR Flats, 4-7 minutes on WSS flats and letters. Royal oaks, Sacramento got 90-130 minutes on the same thing. Packages, loading time is similar. And most of the routs at Royal Oak are 48k. and we at ELkhorn went from 45-46k to 41k or 42h and some J because we got 0 on those flats. We had flats.

  23. Did anyone get DPS letter case time? All carriers in my office case our DPS but none got time for it. If I got only that, my route would gain 2 hours

  24. my request is that the union would get the post office. Management to do a old school mail count where we count every piece of mail. use the old standards and compare it against the new mail count so we can see where the discrepancy’s are. we had people loose over 10 hours and that’s not right went from 46k to 42j.

  25. Lost 3 hours on a route that was vacant through the entire data collection process til January… Still no recourse for me, I just have to get paid based on the work of subs splitting a route.

  26. We need a system that is transparent, if they are going to use the scanner for what we do every day , they need to provide us with a way of verifying all the information that is input day by day , monthly or weekly, we need the proper training on the use of the scanner , this is a low ball so they can negotiate our salaries , most of use are very invested into this job. We do it fast because most of us struggle with a pain in our body somewhere and we don’t ride the clock because that pain will increase , they think we have it easy and basically are trying to pay us hourly. If we were to give wrong information we could be accuse of falsifying information. But somehow when they input wrong information it’s the scanner, this is a criminal act , plain robbery of our hard working practices. Let’s not let them get away with this , this needs to be heard all over the UNITED STATES.
    We are the force , we are the people.

  27. The allowance for parcel lockers are out the window…previous allowance was 2 mins./wk per locker. The hardest routes that took a hit were the route with apartments. Also remember that fixed allowances like stamp stock 20 mins./wk, personal time or washup time 30 mins/wk, and vehicle inpection 30 mins/wk and not around anymore. Alot of our allowances under the old way have diminished in the RRECS system!!! 47K to 36H!!! Expected a sizable decrease, but not 21hrs a wk!!! Something is wrong with the data collected over the last 52 weeks!

  28. If there is no time for casing DPS letters, why is there a line, “case dps letters” with an allowance factor of .0294 standard minutes?

  29. I gained 12 hours. 47K to 48K. Was thorough and consistent since day 1 about catching everything. I stopped at all my stops with or without mail and went beyond the 6 required scans. I find the carriers who took RRECS serious from the beginning did well.

  30. Can anyone explain if stops affect rt. Eval…for 50 years a mobile home park has 4 boxes on a post about a foot apart..they used to have their own stop as it was a rule in older contracts..now this grouping thinng cut my 775 stops to 300…would that make the route go down or no..nobody can seem to answer this or how to group correctly..i mapped it perfect..then while on vacay management regrouped them as 1 stop for each group of 4…you cant reach the other boxes when pulled up to them..how does this make sense? I swear to God i wont deliver to the ones i cant reach at first stop if this is the case. F with me

  31. Eric- to answer your question, any boxes within 5 feet apart get grouped as a stop, if they are on the same post then the mail boxes are grouped as well. So they were correct to group it as a stop. You get creep time with grouped deliveries. Hope this helps.

  32. I have a 120 mile route with 364 curb boxes. I service three zip codes and never finish one before going to another so it’s very hard to take my dps to the street. I used to get sector-segment for the to smaller volumes and dps for the largest. I change zips 15 times a day so it’s a nightmare to not case. I case in two offices and have a locked pouch to a RPO and got no credit for that and no withdrawal time.

  33. CBU routes went down because apparently NO packages counted that were delivered to the door all year! Your scan defaulted to the CBU mailbox, so no time was caluclated for taking that package to the door!

  34. It seems like the 2nd table pay chart carriers who lost on RRECS took the biggest hit. I feel like those are the carriers ready to quit and look elsewhere for work. I’m really not sure who would put up with the bs for $50k a year or less.

  35. Every Rural Carrier needs to withdraw from the worthless NRLCA. Contact HR to find out date you foolishly joined the Union and that will provide date you may cancel dues withholding.

  36. I have basically an all cbu rt. 667 addresses in cbus, 5 schools with dismounts where you have to go in through 2 sets of doors to walk in the building and get buzzed in, with some decent walking distances to get in from the parking spot (time consuming) and just 3 curbsides. One of the largest mail volume rts in the office. Most of my cbus are one cbu at a time…..Do a cbu, get back in, drive to the next one, get back in, drive to the next one. Easy, but time consuming. I was a 42k, now im a 43J! I’ve gained about 100 addresses in cbus since the last real mail count where I was a 43J and had gone up from the number of boxes steps to a 42k. I am doing more work now than I’ve ever done before and I go down 4 hrs? How? It’s like I’m now basically doing all those new addresses for free. F#ck that! I agree that not counting the outgoing collection mail is total bs! I have 2 to 3 tubs of outgoing collection mail every day! That’s 100s of pieces of mail that are getting handled daily and are time consuming….how is that not counted?!!!! I have lots of forwards on my rt about 26 snow birds every winter alone, My pars labels section was 0? I had 2 pars labels during the mini mail survey, how is that 0? I have one of the largest number of forwards in the office! I thought this system was to involve a whole years worth of data, yet it conveniently cuts out important time consuming work? This is a total trash system! Our office didn’t find out that unscanable parcels were basically anything spurish or package size without a scan on it til the mini mail survey a month ago. I was expecting to go up, at the very worst, break even. I’m shocked, angry, and deflated! I love my rt, but now I have to think about moving to a different one. Meanwhile rts that are all curbsides that were baby H rts have grown to about what I am now? Every CBU rt in my office went down or at best stayed the same, and every curbside rt went up. Seems to me that the cbus get punished for using the parcel lockers instead of going to doors, but if you took every package to a door instead of using a parcel locker, you would never make your evaluation. They need to rethink and fix the times for cbus! Im absolutely disgusted! I have almost 20 years experience working for the post office. While they are plenty of downs, overall I like my job, but for the first time, if there was something I could find and make what I’m making, I would consider leaving. We have no subs, havent had any for 7 months, no one has had drop days, we have 2 open rts every day, everyone is getting annoyingly pursued to work Sundays ( a sub job function) the plant is a disaster, mail is in awful condition, upside down like crazy, bills come in way late. De Joy just continues to slowly sabotage and dismantle the post office and our Union, Board of Directors, Congress just let it happen. Fire that man! It’s been nothing but terrible since her took over! No wonder no one wants to come wok for us1

  37. Our union got played.
    If you’re a member, cancel your dues TODAY.
    Thankfully, I’ve never given them a penny, and the mini mail survey results totally validate my decision.

  38. If you’re a union member, CANCEL ASAP.
    You got cut? Cut them too.
    Never given them a penny,; best decision I ever made.
    They got played.

  39. Not sure how true this is but I heard since that covid is basically over, the volume is being ADJUSTED… back to normal for every office (which is bullshit, there is more than there was during covid). I bet my nutsack and all the other nutsacks I’ve ever won from betting my nutsack, that Sunday amazon delivery still won’t stop, which is what the ADJUSTMENT…should be, but everybody that actually sees what goes on everyday, knows what the fuck is really up. Fuck the Post Office, bunch of dicksuckers. Fuck the union too. Bunch of pussies.

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