USPS says the MOU-(DPS-Flats-Vehicle-8-11-2014) to allow routes with USPS provided vehicles to case DPS flats is terminated. They claim they have fulfilled their obligation to put 15000 RHD Employer provided vehicles on rural routes and they will instruct carriers with Employer provided vehicles to cease casing and strapping out DPS flats on March 30th, 2015. Below is the letter notifying the NRLCA that the August 2014 MOU is terminated.
Can’t believe no one has commented yet!
The “a*sociation” had their head up their gabur when they agreed to that MOU!!! Why hasn’t the “a*sociation” completed the “industrial time study” so they could implement the revised evaluated compensation system??? Hasn’t ANYBODY figured out that bringing the FSS to the street is not only more time consuming because half of it is ba*sackwards, but more dangerous, too??? And to top it off, at 43 pieces a minute because the “a*sociation” couldn’t convince the arbiter otherwise. Did the PO “really supply 15,000 LLV’s” or is that what they told the “a*sociation” and those dumbells said….”Oh, OK. We believe you… Read more »
Wagons and mules maybe. But no rifles. Can’t have firearms, remember?
Well that is VERY depressing!!! Given the option to case FSS has made my life so much easier, both physically and mentally. I really don’t understand being paid salary and not being allowed to handle the mail the most efficient way. I’m ready to be paid by the hour! The freedom of the evaluated system is what appeals to me…take that freedom away and make me handle mail in efficient ways equals…just pay me by the hour. Lets unite with the NALC, the NRLCA is irrelevant.
should be inefficient ways
I had rather get my flats raw than have to deal with those heavy awful yellow trays. Obviously whoever thought of the FSS never carried mail and does not have a clue. I have to deliver on a main highway and it is dangerous for me to be sitting and going through the flats while tractor trailers are flying by. I think we should be given a choice of what works better for our routes. This was just a multi billion dollar deal that has proven not to work and they are trying to force it to work when it… Read more »
I have ways considered it a safety issue. I think if you don’t have it already in cased order, you will be thumbing through mail when you should be watching whats going on around you. I have tried it both ways and its more efficient for me to case it all.
I don’t understand a business that wants to spend more money to have us do our job. Spending more time on the street for a rural carrier means a lot more gas use. Not to mention the potential for accidents.
Theresa Hurley Bayer, Sherri Buckler Heather Lewis
The USPS doesn’t force people to stay. If you are dissatisfied, you can make your life AND everyone else around you by finding a job you like.
You don’t like “this company” you can always go work elsewhere. Just saying
If you don’t have fss then you won’t be getting it. The machine is only capable of running a certain amount of offices. And it costs to much money to build more of them. Indiana was supposed to get 2 machines but after they realized they didn’t save any money with it they cancelled the build on the 2nd machine
I did try taking DPS to the street every day for over a month. Every bit of time I saved in the office by not casing was spent on the street dealing with missorts and markups and forwards.
I agree. Distracting and UNSAFE on busy highways
Why not upgrade new truck
I’d rather case it. It takes me 30 min or more extra to deliver my rte with them on the side. Ugh
Valarie Knall we don’t get dps flats yet
Thats dangerous
Im not!!
I like the guy they put on probation last week for throwing his off a bridge
hmmm…. anything written on that?
They’re trying to make us more like city carriers
And what are we to do when we are waiting for more mail??? Case FSS that’s what.
Not even sure what the correct respense should be to express my irritation in this company on so any levels and on so many issues. Hey I have an idea, how about you send out a survey with a COMMENTS box… No? You don’t like the idea of all the negative feedback or ideas on how to run the usps with intelligence?
You don’t like “this company” you can always go work elsewhere. Just saying.
First off @patty La Chapelle most of the route is apartments so that cuts most of the time down its not my fault that you can’t do it your not even willing to try it get over it and stop complaining about things you can’t fix gosh
Don’t sweat it girl… I also have a 48k that is half apartments and half neighborhood with fss and can deliver it in 3.5 hours. Some people are just slow! I just like to be able to case fss for the apartments and carry the rest to the street. It’s nice to have the option.
The fact that it takes longer to complete the route when taking fss to the street proves that casing is more efficient. Here cones more “wait” time!!!
The problem we have is the amount of FSS mail we get. No safe way to load in back end. Not to mention the ridiculous standard of 43 a minute that can’t be done no matter how you deliver it.
Erica you are a runner and either your route is under evaluated or you are not doing the job safely and correctly. Thank for screwing up the craft for everyone else.
Hmmmm 20 years ago we had the two bundle system. Forced to change to the one bundle case. Now they think that having 3-4 bundle on the street is faster and safer?!?!
Stupid!
I saw this coming a long long time ago!!!
Amanda Katon Reep
Um, NO
That’s why the big push on all the RR’s to have LLVs
Did you get one?
not yet!
Lets all thank our union for NOTHING!
You know unions just take your money and buy votes. For the wrong party.
There’s another reason I’m glad we don’t have DPS flats in our area. Why do they so love the idea of us taking mail to the street?
Dorene Thomas Melanie Land Maureen Roode Laura Jones Rastrelli Lydia Santos Adam Davis Mustang Sallie Black Tina Harper Funk
In our office, we are being told this is for DPS letters.
FML!
I wish somebody could explain this to me to where it would make sense. Even if we just go off the safety issue, we cannot completely get off of every single road so they want us to sit there with our a*s is hanging out and thumb through the letters and then search for the magazines and the parcells? That sounds extremely unsafe to me! On top of the amount of extra gas will be using. .. They’re wanting to save a little time at the expense of our safety? Nice!they’re wanting to save a little time at the expense… Read more »
Kim Beasley Jeff Seay Jamie Tipton Thomas
Hmm… I don’t have an LLV nor do we have DPS flats, so let’s see what happens 🙂
I didn’t know what dps flats are that’s what I was wondering
Besides all the bundled flats, all of our flats are raw. DPS flats would come in route sequence just like our DPS letters. But that hasn’t happened in our office…yet.
terrific…..
Sandi Seeland
Sandy Cranwill Lawson Allmon Gloria Hony Lovelace know anything about this?
Actually it’s quite easy once you get the hang of it, it takes me about 4 1/2 hours to run a 48k route I’m off by 2:30 at the latest
Wait til they move your start time back…then let me,know….
No I come in a 7:30 it takes me about 1 to 2 hour to put up flats packages…….. I leave at about 9 ish but most of the route is apartments so that cuts the time down by a lot and I also get a lot less flats then other routes
Tripping…
Lori Schneider
Ok, this says with ’empoyer provided LLV’S’. What about if we drive our own RHD vehicle? That doesn’t count then ….does it?? Could that be a technicality that will allow me to NOT have to take DPS to the street?
I think it’s time to find another job.
We don’t have that in our small office of 754 area
Sean Choate
Ken, this is NOT about “presorts”. Thankful we don’t have FSS in our area! I a*sume that city is already doing this… I’m already getting griped at about “PM time” being over 5 minutes! Ridiculous! I guess we are supposed to have everything separated on the street, come in, drop & leave? Especially if WE ever go to taking everything to the street as this states!
It’s not hard I case my tub flats and hot case mail and pull down and take dps and advos to street I think it’s a lot easier. Don’t mock it til you try it. It beats standing around.
I do the same, but our problem in our office is the wait time. They go beyond the cut-off time. The only solution from management is that they threaten to keep changing start up times. We also make second trips on parcels the majority of the week, trips back for late expresses, and we have the old scanners that break down constantly, and making a trip back to the office for a replacement. A lot of our carrier’s would never make dispatch.
sorry we have pretty good pm supervisor and clerks and they get it done and we are gone by 1030 11ish.
Tangela we have the exact issues in our office. I feel we should have the choice to case it if we are standing around waiting!
I have tried taking it all to the street and am not successful. Please share how you put your mail on tray and how you do the DPS letters. Do you hold them in your hand or do you finger them with your left hand?
I have found the best way for me is to put the DPS on the right, I’m tall so I dummy the tray up with a partial tray underneath then you can have the top tray tilted down (gravity is your friend). I take a big handful and turn it up (makes it easier to see addresses and finger). My middle tray is flats, raw and small parcels/markers. The tray on the left is small parcels not cased and pulled down. If I have marriage mail, clippers or every door direct I have it in a tub on the floor… Read more »
Grab a handful and flip thru just like you do at office casing. Try different methods until you find a way that comfortable. I keep a small tray on floor for any misthrows or my forwards or my markups and when return back to post office sort thru them. Just keep trying its not hard and I cant stand to case my mail at office anymore. I use to practice when I was RCA and when I got my LLV oh it was smooth. I feel like I can focus better when Im at the box putting mail in…Good Luck!!