The NRLCA and the USPS have been in discussions about appropriate credit during mail count for a Prepaid event and the pieces associated with that event, when accepting/collecting these items at a location other than the established delivery point.
The parties have reached a mutual understanding on this issue and a letter is expected to be signed Monday February 24, 2014 and this credit should be applied to the current mail count beginning February 22, 2014. The intent of the Letter of Mutual Understanding is as follows:
In those instances when management directs the rural carrier to accept/collect these items or the customer leaves a note in the mailbox requesting such service, this would also include where there is an understanding between management and the carrier that a specific customer has a standing order as they have items to be collected each day or on specific days: the route will be credited by applying the standard allowances associated with the Carrier Pickup program. Each event will be recorded in Column 21, Carrier Pickup Request and Prepaid Parcel Event. Additionally, credit for each mail piece that qualifies in accordance with Handbook PO-603, Section 535.12, will be recorded in Column 22, Carrier Pickup Items and Prepaid Parcels over 2 lbs. Other mail pieces accepted/collected at this time, such as obvious letter and flat-size mail, including small parcels, will be credited in Column 20, Letters and Flats Collected.
The following examples are intended to assist with the understanding:
Example 1: If management approaches the carrier in the morning and instructs the carrier that John Doe at 123 Main street who has a curbside box, has items that need to be picked up at the door, the route will be credited with an Event in Column 21, Carrier Pickup Request and Prepaid Parcel Event. The carrier gets to 123 Main street and collects 20 priority flats, 10 priority boxes, 7 first class small parcels that weigh 2 lbs or less and 2 parcels that weigh more than 2 lbs., the route would receive 32 pieces in Column 22, Carrier Pickup Items and Prepaid Parcels over 2 lbs., and 7 pieces in Column 20, Letters and Flats Collected. This example would also apply to a note left in the box from a customer and any standing orders that have been discussed between the carrier and the manager.
Example 2: If the carrier arrives at a box where no carrier pickup request was made and there is mail in the box to be collected and the following items are in the box: 6 priority flats, 4 small priority boxes less than 2 lbs., and 1 prepaid parcel that weighs more than 2 lbs., the route would receive 1Event in Column 21, Carrier Pickup Request and Prepaid Parcel Event, 1 piece in Column 22, Carrier Pickup Items and Prepaid Parcels over 2 lbs., and 10 pieces in Column 20, Letters and Flats Collected. This example would also apply to individual pieces collected at a business that the carrier is authorized an official dismount.
via News Info.
Good news…print it out. I am sure mgmt will say they have not been informed. Really they are just unable to understand it…
Not good news. It says intended to sign, not that they did.
so once again ,we get screwed on the 2lb thing – I am sorry but if hte PO CHARGES it as a parcel, then by God it IS a parcel…grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr… very very NOT happy here
yea but still makes no sense what so ever .
Example 1: If management approaches the carrier in the morning and instructs the carrier that John Doe at 123 Main street who has a curbside box, has items that need to be picked up at the door, the route will be credited with an Event in Column 21, Carrier Pickup Request and Prepaid Parcel Event. The carrier gets to 123 Main street and collects 20 priority flats, 10 priority boxes, 7 first class small parcels that weigh 2 lbs or less and 2 parcels that weigh more than 2 lbs., the route would receive 32 pieces in Column 22, Carrier Pickup Items and Prepaid Parcels over 2 lbs., and 7 pieces in Column 20, Letters and Flats Collected. This example would also apply to a note left in the box from a customer and any standing orders that have been discussed between the carrier and the manager.
Example 2: If the carrier arrives at a box where no carrier pickup request was made and there is mail in the box to be collected and the following items are in the box: 6 priority flats, 4 small priority boxes less than 2 lbs., and 1 prepaid parcel that weighs more than 2 lbs., the route would receive 1Event in Column 21, Carrier Pickup Request and Prepaid Parcel Event, 1 piece in Column 22, Carrier Pickup Items and Prepaid Parcels over 2 lbs., and 10 pieces in Column 20, Letters and Flats Collected. This example would also apply to individual pieces collected at a business that the carrier is authorized an official dismount.
When are they gonna decide what we get for the new phone setup every morning….takes about 2 min a morning to set them up.
in the 1st example you get credit for20 priority flats in column 22. 2nd example you get credit for them in column 20. so which one is it ?
we get a scan for the phones what a joke
Do we get a second or third "scan" credit when the dang thing won't pair up?!?!
What about time for locking gas caps on the llv's?? Our office has to hassle with that crap too
Karen Karen Fitzsimmons
Just had this conversation with a supervisor….gotta make sure i get my 90 second credit……VICTORY!!!
Phone didn't pair up with scanner today. Did not make 2nd attempt. Was able to pull up and photograph total scans at end of day
Carrie Friedman Spurlock
At my mail count class, they said priority packages, express, and intl do not have to weigh 2lbs to get column 22 credit. I'm glad it says even without a carrier pu note you can get the column 21.
YES we lose again! If I get a parcel credit for delivering a pill bottle (clearly less than 2lbs) why shouldn't I get a parcel credit for collecting one? Parcel collection should have been based on the same dimensions as delivery. WHY didn't the NRLCA understand this?
YES we lose again! If I get a parcel credit for delivering a pill bottle (clearly less than 2lbs) why shouldn’t I get a parcel credit for collecting one? Parcel collection should have been based on the same dimensions as delivery. WHY didn’t the NRLCA understand this?
I don't think we lose. You still get column 22 if you have a carrier pu sheet/ or a prepaid event. It seems easier to get column 21. We have a lot of customers that leave several parcels at the box, so that would be considered a prepaid event.
this is the same as the count in 2012. for that they need an MOU?
in example one.. you receive a notice to pick the package up.. in example two.. you don't have a notice.. you pick them up out of the box.. theres a difference..
We are not getting col 21 or col 22 credit unless there is a parcel over 2 lb. (We never get a Carrier PU Request.) I need a copy of that MOU. My PM hates the union and only does what the "District" tells him. The District says there has to be a parcel over 2 lb., regardless of the class or size, it is all about weight to them. Maybe something from "Headquarters" will help. The example above seems to back up their claim that without a CPR it goes by weight.
With all of these discrepancies, shouldn't this mail count be thrown out and the PO try again in the fall when managers have been trained? Procedures are not supposed to change after the Pre-count Conference…right?
In example 1, the carrier has to go to the door, so all the priority and parcels over 2 lbs. count.
In example 2, the items are left in the box, and the carrier did NOT go to the door, so only the parcel of 2 lbs. counts.
The important part is about "when accepting/collecting these items at a location other than the established delivery point."
It is now clarified with the statement "when accepting/collecting these items at a location other than the established delivery point." It is determined by where the items are being picked up. Now I understand. Thank You for this essential information.
Where are all the flats?
The grievance was supposed to be about adding in first class pieces to be counted as 9 seconds apiece when part of an event as mentioned in a service talk so what happened to that